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Irish1 · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 60 Location: Montgomery Township

Not sure if anyone has asked the following?
Is Mr. Rotz still allowed to carry open if his conceal permit is revoked, and can he still carry concealed until his hearing?

.45chel · Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 2754 Location: Chambersburg

open carry only
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me · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 119

Right on Shea T.

Had the Constable told someone they could not wear a certain type of T-shirt, could not speak their opinion to others outside the polls about candidates, could not go in with a Cross or Star of David around their neck or without putting one on, they would be screaming bloody murder, BUT since it involves a weapon, they see no problem with this blatant violation of Mr. Rotz's civil rights !!!!
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A Talking Horse · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Cove Gap

Dave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 162

Like I've said, anyone who feels the need to carry a gun everywhere they go needs to get professional help.

After hearing from all the "carriers" in the area, I'm more afraid of getting shot by these "protectors" than I am a criminal. If I get held up at gunpoint & one of these vigilaties starts shooting........

So one of these carriers geta gun pointed at them by a thug, do they try the quick draw? Do they practice a quick draw? Or does the thug just get a new gun to rob someone else with.

A Talking Horse · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Cove Gap

me · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 119

Curious · Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 34

No electioneering is allowed in the polling place. This includes buttons, shirts, hats, pamphlets and signs. You can discuss the candidates freely until you are within 10 feet of the door of the polling place and thenyou enter the campaign free zone. This regulation is an attempt to ensure fair and free elections. Why can't you grasp that fact???

me · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 119

Curious,

I fully understand AND support the electioneering/ campaigning restrictions. What I and others are referring to is a VOTER not being able to wear a button, hat, shirt etc. That is a violation of free speech/ expression !!!!!
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Coppy · Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2267 Location: Chambersburg

armed_citizen · Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 212 Location: Chambersburg, PA

Coppy · Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2267 Location: Chambersburg

I don't think Dave has considered the possibility of a zombie uprising, in which case, I would think carrying a concealed weapon could be beneficial.

Not to be smug, but there are certainly two trains of thought here. I completely understand the position that people carrying guns around for the benefit of personal safety may be bordering (if nor exceeding) paranoia. Heck, here in rural America, your chances of requiring the use of a concealed weapon are pretty much nil.

I don't feel the need to take a gun with me everywhere I go; plus it could make shopping for pants a cumbersome experience. Because most people don't see the need in doing this, it's hard for us to understand why you need to armed_cit. I don't think anyone's trying to take away your constitutional rights, but it does seem a bit silly. And frankly, I'm not particularly comfortable with the idea of a society where people need to carry guns everywhere. I'm happy to not be living in the Wild West.

Then again, you seem to be part of a gun culture that some of are not so it's hard for us to understand your position. I'm not trying to understand either; I don't see the need and I never will. The PO reported about a year ago on a guy who accidentally shot himself in his car sitting in the parking lot of Gander Mountain. Another guy got shot at for passing someone on double-lined, rural road.

So I have to ask; do you keep your gun in a holster at your side ready should the "need" present itself? That seems like overkill; this isn't Compton.

armed_citizen · Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 212 Location: Chambersburg, PA

Coppy,

I have heard tell of this coming zombie uprising, but it's pretty low on my list of 'scenarios'. Shocked

I agree completely that there are two different sides, and some folks fall somewhere in the middle. It's not my intention to evangelize everyone to do as I do. What I do is my choice. I encourage everyone to make their own decisions and exercise or not exercise any freedoms they choose.

The Chambersburg area is quickly losing it's 'rural' feel. Even the outlying areas are not untouched. I think of the woman in State Line who was killed for her car by the mass murderer from Texas. And just two weeks ago an elderly couple near McConellsburg experienced a home invasion, were tied up while their home was robbed and their car was stolen.

Again, I do NOT "need" to take a firearm everywhere I go. I CHOOSE to do so, in case a "need" arises.

I remember the story at Gander Mountain. Something seems to stick in my mind that it was an off-duty police officer?? I'm also aware of the 'road rage' incident you mentioned. I don't know if the party who fired the gun was legally possessing it or not (in PA you are required to have a LTCF for carry in a vehicle), but even if he was, his decision to actually fire it for such a reason is idiotic.

I carry my firearm in a holster. I believe it is safer there than left in my locked vehicle where it is out of my sight and control, though having it my vehicle is still better than it being at home. How and where (on one's person) a firearm is carried can vary depending on the model being carried, weather, type of dress, etc. Simply shoving a firearm into a purse, bag or even pocket is not safe unless the trigger is protected. Using a holster accomplishes this.

*edited to fix typo
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Coppy · Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2267 Location: Chambersburg

A well-stated response, and I can't say I have anything else to add other than I can't argue with it. What's your right within the boundaries of the law are simply that.

So, that said, if the zombies do come, you're covered... at least temporarily.