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Mavis



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Parking Reply with quote

Does anyone else find it odd that the borough allows cars to be parked so close to intersections?

It hinders visibility of both drivers and pedestrians. People trying to park or exit spaces that are about 10 feet from intersections create a hazard. It contributes to a cluttered and uninviting look downtown.

I haven't seen this in other communities I've lived in. Just wondering why...
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hanginout



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Just wondering why"

Because that's where they used to park the horse and buggy. Why would you expect them to change?

It is a very dangerous situation at many intersections.

Check out the area around CASHs. There is a large parking lot for students, yet they tolerate student parking on 6th Street, right to the corners end. Residents must py to park in front of their own homes. And that's who the rent a cops tickets if the permit falls off the mirror.

Talk about creating a fat and lazy future generation. Heck "I had to walk five miles to school", and they need to park as close as possible. Poor kiddys...
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Coppy



Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanginout wrote:

Talk about creating a fat and lazy future generation. Heck "I had to walk five miles to school", and they need to park as close as possible. Poor kiddys...


Oh you'd park there too if you were in high school and could get away with it.
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ZiggyStardust



Joined: 07 Nov 2007
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Location: Chambersburg

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just kids who are lazy. A woman who lives in my building (I won't name the street because it's a fairly prominent location on 30) parks a car she never drives and "plans" on selling (it's been sitting here for nearly 6 months, without "For Sale" signs) in front of our building when there's a public parking lot about a block away. Of course, she also parks the car she actually drives on the street as well. Makes it a pain in the butt for everyone who lives on the block to park because at times even when there is a place to park on the street, it's hard to get to because this stupid vehicle is in the way. A lot of times I end up having to park only a few feet from one of said intersections or I just suck it up and park in the aforementioned lot and walk the extra block. Perhaps I should offer to move it for her..
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hanginout



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ziggy...

Is your neighbors car that she plans "on selling (it's been sitting here for nearly 6 months, without "For Sale" signs)" legally registerd with a plate? Is it in running order?

If no to either, call the cops and they have it ticketed and towed.
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hanginout



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coppermine said "Oh you'd park there too if you were in high school and could get away with it."

Where the robocop that lets them get away with it? Smokin' in the boys room.....
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really can't force people to obey stupid rules that don't have consequences or a logical purpose.
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanginout wrote:


Check out the area around CASHs. There is a large parking lot for students, yet they tolerate student parking on 6th Street, right to the corners end. Residents must py to park in front of their own homes. And that's who the rent a cops tickets if the permit falls off the mirror.




that happened (the cashs parking fiasco) when i was in high school and the neighbors complained of us 'bad kids of cashs'...of course, never being one to hide what i think, i wrote a loverly 'letters to the editor' basically saying that if the ppl didn't want kids around them, then the h.s. area probs wasn't the best area to buy a house in...i can't remember the rest but will kull my memory banks for more if need be....what a pain all that was, all around.

parking in the area has always sucked. imo.
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well cookie, as a former CASHS student, perhaps you can shed light on the "why" students park there? I've heard it all from that you're lazy, inconsiderate, rude and part of a generally rotten generation of kids.

That seems to be the sentiment of everyone over the age of 35 for the past 200 years, but I think that the parking situation is really facilitated by a lack of planning and simply no consequences for parking where you want. I mean, residents think that you should park appropriately out of the goodness of your hearts and that seeing just one or two idiot high schoolers is enough to convince them that the lot of you are idiots.

So what's the story? Why's the parking so bad and what can be done to please the neighbors and the students?
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coppy wrote:

So what's the story? Why's the parking so bad and what can be done to please the neighbors and the students?



the main chaos (and yes, there have always been cashs parking issues i believe) started around 94-95 when someone new moved to the area and bought a house across the street more or less from cashs...(will not name names)...this person had a young child and was apparenlty "afraid" of those hooligans..er, i mean cashs students, who parked around the h.s.

so, she mounted up some troops to corral those baddie cashs ppl and when all this started happening was the time of the blizzard (remember how horribly the roads were taken care of that year? parking chaos in town and all around....horrendous)....so...i think in between crappy snow removal and this lady shaking her fist in protest the p.o. and others started writing and discussing cashs parking issues. i wrote in (from the student point of view, because it wasn't discussed at all in any of the communications about this) saying that kids needed to park on the streets not just for school, but because some had band before or after school, clubs, sports and many worked after classes had let out.

and i reminded the n00b that her child would eventually be one of those cashs hooligans. (lolz)

long story shortened. ppl moving in and causing parking friction, on top of blizzard w/bad snow removal made cashs parking being taken from 'anywhere' in the area to just sixth street, with permits and then as well ppl in the neighborhoods/streets surrounding would need permits as well.

and i'm guessing the ppl that started it all have children in college now and have forgotten all of this. my theory? if it bothers you, you shouldn't have moved there in the first place. hahahaha.....


imho, cashs is poorly located anyway (just a side vent)....they're too cramped where they are and once upon a time they could've had the opportunity to build across from faust (how nice would that have been) where parking and building space (then not of course now) were ample. yay planning commissions....they're probs the same ppl who said the bridge into the mall didn't need expanded....HAHAHAHA....
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Wile_E



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Back to Topic Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me if there are any Ordinances regarding parking in the front yard, not on a driveway, within the Boro?

There's a family in the neighborhood that has turned their front yard (which is VERY close to my front yard Evil or Very Mad) into an excellent representation of the Russian Front in WW2 during the spring thaw.
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Junk Yard



Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Parking Reply with quote

Most small towns and some cities do not allow parking right to the corner of an intersection. It varies from what I have seen, from ten feet to fifteen feet from the corner of an intersection. The way the borough allows parking right at the corner, their are looking for an accident to happen. It is hard enough to get around downtown with all the double parking that goes on, let alone not being able to get around a corner because you dont know if some dummy is going to run the red light on you.
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Back to Topic Reply with quote

Wile_E wrote:
Can anyone tell me if there are any Ordinances regarding parking in the front yard, not on a driveway, within the Boro?

There's a family in the neighborhood that has turned their front yard (which is VERY close to my front yard Evil or Very Mad) into an excellent representation of the Russian Front in WW2 during the spring thaw.


There is no way that could possibly be allowed.
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hanginout



Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Parking on front lawn... Reply with quote

Coppy wrote:
Wile_E wrote:
Can anyone tell me if there are any Ordinances regarding parking in the front yard, not on a driveway, within the Boro?

There's a family in the neighborhood that has turned their front yard (which is VERY close to my front yard Evil or Very Mad) into an excellent representation of the Russian Front in WW2 during the spring thaw.


There is no way that could possibly be allowed.


It might not be "allowed", but it is tolerated.....
Check out the little brick house on the west side S. 6th Street between Washington and Liberty Streets. The front lawn is rutted and routinely used as a parking lot. The lazy asp people have plenty of on-street and off-steet parking. But they can't seem to get close enough to the front door. And they are younger people.. When they age I suppose they'll want to park on the porch.

I should have sent this to Mr. Mayors blog for a "we'll try to get to it response".
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's this bizarre struggle around here between people wanting to do what they want to do without being told otherwise, and the people who leave garbage, couches and cars all over their yards. I'm sorry, but there needs to be some sort of enforcement of this, if not because it makes our community look trashy, but at least because it's some sort of safety or fire hazard.
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