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cookieclaygirl

Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1963 Location: shippensburg
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: missing |
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i have been pondering the disappearance of steve baird.
why has not more been done?
why can't more info be disclosed (what gas station was he at? if it was a crime, should we be more aware cautious/alert?)
i think more info needs disclosed...that if posters/signs/whathaveyou were put maybe someone would see them or be able to help....i know that there are ads, but why can't area businesses put up signs...why can't 18wheelers that are travelling the corridor have a sign in case someone could help.
does any one else find it odd that this disappearance has been kept so quiet? why isn't more being done to help him....
he's a member of our community and we need to do our best to find him. |
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Maggie
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| We were talking about him today and how there doesn't seem to be a lot of attention focused on the disappearance. It's very odd in this area that someone is missing. I'm sure his family is distraught; we aren't related and don't know him but have been thinking about him and his family. |
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armed_citizen

Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Chambersburg, PA
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Given the lack of info provided to the public so we can 'help' locate him, it sure feels like a case where there is not a serious belief that he is in imminent danger. _________________ Author assumes full responsibility for the content of their posts. Opinions expressed on this website are not necessarily those of the Public Opinion, its editor, publisher, Board or affiliated parties. |
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Maggie
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| That could explain the question of why there isn't more news or interest by the police. Thanks for the updated posting. |
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.45chel

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 2859 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I do not know anything about this man or his background, but I followed the case of the pregnant Marine who went missing. Before her body was found, it was not her mother (whom had reported her missing) that the media was playing interviews of...it was interviews with her stepmother. A woman that made it clear she thought the rape allegations AND the missing persons case were made up by a young woman she felt was unstable and attention seeking.
Obviously, this was not the case.
This may very well be the case of man who does not want to be found. But unless he communicated that fact through phone calls or letters, his family has a right to see this through. If this is found to be intentional, then by all means, make him personally (not his worried sick family members) pay for the cost of the search with community service and/or future monies earned. (It wouldn't exactly be fair if he could just take it out of the bank account he shares with his wife, now would it?) _________________ I demand euphoria! |
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armed_citizen

Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Chambersburg, PA
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Of course, we're all just speculating, but if an adult, for whatever reason, simply picks up and goes off for an 'unscheduled vacation' or even to attempt to start a new life, he may be considered "missing" by family and friends who he failed to communicate that decision to.
However, if previous history and current facts in a situation like this show no indication of a crime being committed, then the police are off the hook. It's unfortunate, but a private matter. Friends and family are free to have private investigators attempt to locate him, but it doesn't rise to the level that warrants continued police involvement.
Again, none of us know the specific details here, but in general terms I'm asserting that it's not necessarily the job of the police to resolve a 'mystery' that is likely to have no criminal activity involved. _________________ Author assumes full responsibility for the content of their posts. Opinions expressed on this website are not necessarily those of the Public Opinion, its editor, publisher, Board or affiliated parties. |
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.45chel

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 2859 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Interesting argument, Citizen.
Now a question to continue the discussion.
Do you think any of the lack of concern has to with gender?
I'm sure I need not remind you of all of the missing woman cases we have had recently in the national news. Is this case different because he is male?
We don't typically think of men being abducted, so could this play in to the strong belief that he has just 'taken off'? Are we being sexist?
Is running away when your 15 an act similar to running away from your wife, job and family when you're 30? I hardly consider the two comparable, but then, I'm wrong alot. _________________ I demand euphoria! |
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QueenofHearts
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 366
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Why would he just up and dissappear? He was just appointed to the Human Resources Director job at Meno Haven.
I suppose it's the former cop in me that is yelling out.
Oh, my grammar is terrible today! |
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me
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 119
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Hmmmm |
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It has been in the paper, on the net, etc. PSP has checked the routes to/ from work, the info associated with the bank, etc.
Kinda hard to chase a ghost! So, cookie, what do you suggest be done? _________________ Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and like it, never really care for anything else thereafter. |
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QueenofHearts
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 366
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Hmmmm |
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| me wrote: | It has been in the paper, on the net, etc. PSP has checked the routes to/ from work, the info associated with the bank, etc.
Kinda hard to chase a ghost! So, cookie, what do you suggest be done? |
Not all has been put out for you to read, cookie!
I have suggested a couple of things before, but my post was taken down, rightfully so I must add. I just hope that those who read it took the advise. Things are always what they seem.
Let it be known however, that I do not know this man nor his family.
Don't ever insult my intelligence. If I don't know what I am talking about, I will not post it. Thank you.
Now, may I get back to being myself, again?  |
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postaff
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 118 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Please do not post speculation about Baird's personal life, or his presumed motivations or past behavior. The PO will publish an update on the case if/when there are new, officially verified facts. Thanks! |
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cookieclaygirl

Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1963 Location: shippensburg
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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this forum has a potential of suckage.
*CENSORSHIP* |
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cookieclaygirl

Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1963 Location: shippensburg
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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you know now what makes me angry
my post that i just got 'censored' on had absolutely no friggin, oh, what was the wording that was used "speculation" on baird. i was just saying i think it's sad that not more is being done
yeah. great. censor that.
w/e
back to the cumberlink forums i guess. |
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QueenofHearts
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 366
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hmmmm |
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| QueenofHearts wrote: | | me wrote: | It has been in the paper, on the net, etc. PSP has checked the routes to/ from work, the info associated with the bank, etc.
Kinda hard to chase a ghost! So, cookie, what do you suggest be done? |
Not all has been put out for you to read, cookie!
I have suggested a couple of things before, but my post was taken down, rightfully so I must add. I just hope that those who read it took the advise. Things are always what they seem.
Let it be known however, that I do not know this man nor his family.
Don't ever insult my intelligence. If I don't know what I am talking about, I will not post it. Thank you.
Now, may I get back to being myself, again?  |
Oy my gosh...I just re-read my post.
The one line should have read: Things are NOT always what they seem. |
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Mixolydian

Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 32 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | you know now what makes me angry
my post that i just got 'censored' on had absolutely no friggin, oh, what was the wording that was used "speculation" on baird. i was just saying i think it's sad that not more is being done
yeah. great. censor that.
w/e
back to the cumberlink forums i guess. |
I saw what was posted, and I saw how it was edited. Someone, I think it was Armed Citizen, speculated as to an underlying cause for Baird's disappearance. Several posters, including you Cookie, cited that speculation in subsequent posts.
The initial speculation and all following references to it were removed - though the posts and context were preserved - because the speculation and subsequent references were potentially actionable by interested parties.
Then, after POstaff asked you all to refrain, you, Cookie, mentioned it again. On many forums that alone would have been enough to get you banned regardless of whether you understood what was going on and why. I'd be more specific about the problem, but I don't want to bring the subject back up.
You got to give these people the benefit of the doubt that they what they're doing. The mod was not a comment on your purity of intention.
Just wanted to provide - another - explanation as to why these things happen.
Have fun at Cumberlink. We'll miss you... |
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