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 Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: NOT GUILTY !!!!!!!!!!1 |
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| wire1 wrote: | Dave,
As usual, thanks for your inciteful Monday morning quarterback analysis. In your perfect world, I realize everything goes by the book and is black or white for you. But in real life, highly trained or not, the trooper only had time to make one decision instead of grabbing his manual and looking over his options. Don't know you, don't need to know you, but I can tell that you are not and have never been a police officer. If you were and were on the streets, that one day you would end up with a bullet in your or your partners body, because if you take the time to think, you're dead. That doesn't mean that you shoot first and ask questions later. Just because he made the wrong choice and made it very quickly does not mean it was negligent. |
AMEN wire 1, boy do I wish it was a perfect world, it would have made our previous careers much, much easier!!!
I really liked the part about, wait, let me look this up in the manual, weigh my options, confer with my partner or Supervisor and then make a decision!!!! Some of these idiots have NEVER had to make a life or death decision in a matter of mili-seconds, so they have no freakin' clue!!!
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armed_citizen
Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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Location: Chambersburg, PA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The verdict is in.
http://kdka.com/local/trial.verdict.Ellerbe.2.674568.html
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Jury: Troopers Liable In Ellerbe Case
PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ― A federal jury has reached a verdict in the Michael Ellerbe civil case.
At issue was whether two state troopers used excessive force when they shot and killed 12 year-old Michael Ellerbe after a police case in Uniontown in December 2002.
After 19 hours of deliberation, over four days, the jury called the actions of both Trooper Samuel Nassan and Juan Curry unreasonable and wanton in Ellerbe's death.
The jury awarded $28 million in damages to the family of Ellerbe.
That figure includes $24 million in punitive damages -- $12 million against Nassan and $12 million against Curry – plus $4 million in non-economic damages.
Michael Hickenbottom, the father of Ellerbe, began this legal process nearly six years ago and had tears in his eyes in the court room.
The troopers though were clearly disappointed and still contend that Nassan believed that Curry had been shot by Ellerbe when Curry's gun fired an errant shots at a fence.
The boy was not armed.
"Well after five years, my baby has been vindicated," said Hickenbottom. "And that is enough for me."
"This is obviously an enormously disappointing verdict in our view, not at all supported by the evidence," said defense attorney Andrew Fletcher. "We stand behind Trooper Nassan and Corporal Curry. Their actions that day were made under tense, uncertain, rapidly evolving circumstances."
The troopers were named individually as defendants.
It is unclear whether the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania or the State Police could be liable in this judgment.
Fletcher says that he will appeal.
Stay with KDKA for more details.
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