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.45chel
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
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Location: Chambersburg
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I have a confession.
We bought here because it was cheap.
Admittedly, we didn't know we would be that far above median income here, (funny, I don't feel rich) but we bought our home betting that the area would improve and the value would increase.
Community improvements take time and one or two 'upscale' stores isn't going to change anything---but business failures will.
We all just have to accept the fact that for somethings we will have to drive a distance for.
Hey! Ya know what? While we're waiting for the area to improve we should totally push for legislation requiring owners of restaurants that have been closed for more than six months to forfeit their liquor licenses.
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Coppy
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Location: Chambersburg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: |
Hey! Ya know what? While we're waiting for the area to improve we should totally push for legislation requiring owners of restaurants that have been closed for more than six months to forfeit their liquor licenses. |
Sign me up! |
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cookieclaygirl
Joined: 03 Dec 2007
Posts: 1625
Location: shippensburg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| i just saw that i'm barely above the median for cburg (and i'm a professor)...wonder what i'd be making in 'bigger areas'....thank god i'm single and have nothing else to pay for. haha... |
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paul_milander
Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 521
Location: Shippensburg, PA
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | | i just saw that i'm barely above the median for cburg (and i'm a professor)...wonder what i'd be making in 'bigger areas'....thank god i'm single and have nothing else to pay for. haha... |
A scary number is the Per capita income |
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cookieclaygirl
Joined: 03 Dec 2007
Posts: 1625
Location: shippensburg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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OMFG!
KATE SPADE IS COMING TO THE PRIME OUTLETS!!!!!!!!!!
a little sliver of heaven.... |
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paul_milander
Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 521
Location: Shippensburg, PA
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How about a 16 screen movieplex with Stadium seating, recline chairs, and food stand by each of the group of four screens with real food like UNO Pizza and Starbucks.( hey Harrisburg spoiled me)
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Coppy
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Location: Chambersburg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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That new theater at the Harrisburg Mall is really fantastic.
I makes the Valley Mall look like Norland Shopping Center. |
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cookieclaygirl
Joined: 03 Dec 2007
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Location: shippensburg
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i assume you mean the 'old' norland shopping center. rofl....
how many norland shopping centers can one town have?
does anyone know the significance of 'norland' in our town. hum. i may have to research that one.... |
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paul_milander
Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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Location: Shippensburg, PA
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | That new theater at the Harrisburg Mall is really fantastic.
I makes the Valley Mall look like Norland Shopping Center. |
Heck Regal along 81 makes Valley Mall look ancient..
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sassy moose
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | OMFG!
KATE SPADE IS COMING TO THE PRIME OUTLETS!!!!!!!!!!
a little sliver of heaven.... |
Seriously? Crap. It's bad enough that Coach is there.
Must...stay...away... |
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cookieclaygirl
Joined: 03 Dec 2007
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Location: shippensburg
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um, coach and i are good friends. when i go into the store they know me. THAT is a bad sign.
i've tried to stay away for a while.
but now....luring me with kate. that's just cruel and unusual punishment. and they sent me a coupon. 25% off total order. um. HECK. dangit. dangnabbit. dingdangadoodleleedoo. I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO. |
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sassy moose
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course you're going to have to go. Me too. |
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paul_milander
Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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Location: Shippensburg, PA
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | i assume you mean the 'old' norland shopping center. rofl....
how many norland shopping centers can one town have?
does anyone know the significance of 'norland' in our town. hum. i may have to research that one.... |
http://deila.dickinson.edu/theirownwords/author/McClureA.htm
Alexander Kelly McClure
(1828-1909)
Alexander Kelly McClure was born in Sherman’s Valley, Pennsylvania to the farming family of Alexander and Isabella Anderson McClure on January 9, 1828. He received little formal schooling and was apprenticed to a tanner in 1843. He also assisted as a printer at the local Perry County Freeman, and so began a long and distinguished career as a newspaperman. Within a few years he was editor and publisher of the Juniata Sentinel in Mifflintown, and before long the strident Whig views he had developed earlier at the Freeman came to the notice of Pennsylvania political leaders. The youthful McClure was appointed to the staff of William F. Johnson, the first Whig governor of the Commonwealth, with the honorary rank of colonel. In 1850 he served as the deputy United States marshal for Juniata County thanks to Whig president Millard Fillmore. Two years later McClure relocated to Franklin County, took over the Franklin Repository, and then turned it into one of the most influential newspapers in the state.
A prominent citizen of Chambersburg for two decades, McClure studied law and was called to the Franklin Bar in 1856. Politics and the press, however, remained his major interests. In 1853 he had been selected as the Whig candidate for auditor-general, the youngest man up to that time in Pennsylvania nominated for a state office. He lost that race, and his Whig passion began turning toward the newly emerging Republican Party. McClure carried on a spirited conflict with the local Democratic Valley Spirit through his own press in Chambersburg, the powerfully Republican Repository. He attended the Commonwealth’s Republican organizing convention in Pittsburgh in 1855, was elected to the state House of Representatives in 1858, and the following year became a member of the state Senate. He played an even more prominent role in Republican politics in 1860 when, still only thirty-two years of age, he and Andrew Curtin succeeded in bringing over the Pennsylvania delegation at the national convention from Simon Cameron to Abraham Lincoln. McClure immediately launched himself in the state and national elections as chairman of the Republican State Committee, constructing an efficient and widely organized campaign that swept his friend Curtin to the governorship and Lincoln to a sweeping Pennsylvania victory.
On the outbreak of war, Senator McClure became the chair of the state's Senate Committee on Military Affairs. He acted as spokesman for Curtin and offered the governor strong support within the legislature. He assisted Curtin in the calling of the influential meeting of “Loyal War Governors of the North,” held in Altoona on September 24 and 25, 1862. He was also commissioned as an assistant adjutant general under President Lincoln and helped provide seventeen Pennsylvania regiments to the Union armies. His own personal brush with war came with the Confederate occupations of Chambersburg, the second of which, in 1863, saw him meet with General Lee personally. In 1864 a third Confederate foray into Pennsylvania saw the town burned to the ground with McClure’s “Norland” estate on the northern outskirts deliberately targeted for destruction. He never rebuilt his estate in Chambersburg (Norland was later to become much of the campus of Wilson College), and instead moved to Philadelphia, opening a law office in that city. Around this same time, he also invested in western mining. As a representative of the Philadelphia-based Montana Gold and Silver Mining Company, he traveled and worked, in 1867 and 1868, as superintendent of the mill that was built with company funds on the Oro Cache vein in the Montana Territory.
The remainder of his political career saw McClure take on an increasingly independent bent. He supported Ulysses S. Grant at the 1868 Republican National Convention, but by the time of the General’s reelection bid, McClure had become disillusioned with the party; he then led the Pennsylvania delegation to the Liberal Republican National Convention that nominated Horace Greeley. Back home in Philadelphia, he had similarly broken party ranks, winning a hard fought election to the state Senate on the Citizen’s ticket, with Democratic endorsement. In 1874 McClure ran for mayor, with similar backing, on the popular platform of anti-corruption, losing by only a few hundred votes. Not giving up, the following year he and Frank McLaughlin founded the Times as an independent, anti-corruption voice for Philadelphia. McClure remained its editor until 1901 when he sold the newspaper to Adolph Ochs.
McClure had earlier, in 1869, published letters of his travels in Montana, but from 1892 onwards he began to write on his reminiscences of a long political career. He published works on Andrew Curtin, Abraham Lincoln, and Pennsylvania politics as he had seen them, and he also wrote a more contemporary biography of William McKinley. Alexander Kelly McClure died in Philadelphia on June 6, 1909.
Please visit the following link for materials authored by John Mitchell Mason maintained in the Their Own Words database:
McClure, Alexander Kelly, 1828-1909.
Researched, authored, and edited by John Osborne, Ph. D., and James Gerencser.
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Coppy
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Paul, I have to say that was an excellent read. I love history and government, but it's even more interesting when it's local. It makes me wonder about a lot of things (from local politics to demographics to geography) but I suppose that answers the question. A lot of prominent politicians from the founding of our nation and up to the end of the 19th century named their estates. I suppose McClure's was "Norland" much like Jefferson's "Monticello," Washington's "Mount Vernon" or Andrew Jackson's "Hermitage."
People don't realize (and President Bush made a bit of a snafu when he compared himself to Abraham Lincoln as a Republican) that the Civil War-era Republican party of Lincoln largely transformed into the modern Democratic party (hence the reason southern states are primarily red and northern states blue).
In fact, it can be traced back to the founding of our nation when the first two American political parties formed with a support for either a centralized government power (Federalists) and state's rights (Democratic-Republicans). And that has always been the most significant division between the two-party political system of America, no matter what they're called.
It's a shame social issues always have to rear their ugly head in American politics; religion and morals... tisk, tisk, our founding fathers would be so disappointed!
Anyway, I got a little off track, but I do appreciate the article.  |
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paul_milander
Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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Location: Shippensburg, PA
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| Coppy wrote: | Paul, I have to say that was an excellent read. I love history and government, but it's even more interesting when it's local. It makes me wonder about a lot of things (from local politics to demographics to geography) but I suppose that answers the question. A lot of prominent politicians from the founding of our nation and up to the end of the 19th century named their estates. I suppose McClure's was "Norland" much like Jefferson's "Monticello," Washington's "Mount Vernon" or Andrew Jackson's "Hermitage."
People don't realize (and President Bush made a bit of a snafu when he compared himself to Abraham Lincoln as a Republican) that the Civil War-era Republican party of Lincoln largely transformed into the modern Democratic party (hence the reason southern states are primarily red and northern states blue).
In fact, it can be traced back to the founding of our nation when the first two American political parties formed with a support for either a centralized government power (Federalists) and state's rights (Democratic-Republicans). And that has always been the most significant division between the two-party political system of America, no matter what they're called.
It's a shame social issues always have to rear their ugly head in American politics; religion and morals... tisk, tisk, our founding fathers would be so disappointed!
Anyway, I got a little off track, but I do appreciate the article. |
Your welcome, I was always a history buff but when I was young it was nerdy, the History channel has helped make it more mainstream. Heck I am sure there are stoners who use to watch informercials no cant pass up a good story on the History Channel. This area is so chock full of things that it is unreal.
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