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munchkin
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| Torgo wrote: | | munchkin wrote: | Translation - I will not comment on the facts you have presented. Being a liberal all I know is attack
You are a typical white male like Obama said |
No, I simply dispute the characterization of your bilge as "facts."
Rather, they are the desperate wheezings of a dying order, Dodo, based on an engineered controversy over statements never uttered by the actual candidate, who subsequently put them in context in perhaps the greatest political speech of the this century.
But your game is amusing in a blackly comic sort of way, as you and the rest of the small, fearful minds continue to parrot what y'all hear from your broadcast overlords.
I do hope you continue this sort of thing through the rest of the primaries, right up to and beyond the moment Obama wins the nomination, so we can start talking about war-forever McSame, age 137, and his $1.4 trillion S&L looting with Keating et. al... |
Obama my not win the nomination. Hillary may be able to overtake Obama in the popular vote given the fallingpoll numbers of Obama
Even if she does not, Clinton Inc will do all they can to get the Super delegates on her side
This is going all the way to Denver - I am looking forward to the coming bloodbath |
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Coppy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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What simply strikes me the most is that we are lumped into some sort of mythical category of "liberals" based completely on conjecture and rhetoric. That any Obama supporter is an obvious hypocrite and, perhaps even more ludicrously, a racist.... right, explain that one to me.
I just see this as the crosshairs being aimed away from Hillary and on Obama. If the Munchkin crowd doesn't change their strategy, they're looking for a tough win against Obama in the November election. If Hillary were cruising toward the nomination, it would be the same story, different person.
I still don't see what the "facts" are other than a sweeping broad generalization of what munchkin and the talk show pundits consider to be anyone who doesn't automatically vote Republican in any election. |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | What simply strikes me the most is that we are lumped into some sort of mythical category of "liberals" based completely on conjecture and rhetoric. That any Obama supporter is an obvious hypocrite and, perhaps even more ludicrously, a racist.... right, explain that one to me.
I just see this as the crosshairs being aimed away from Hillary and on Obama. If the Munchkin crowd doesn't change their strategy, they're looking for a tough win against Obama in the November election. If Hillary were cruising toward the nomination, it would be the same story, different person.
I still don't see what the "facts" are other than a sweeping broad generalization of what munchkin and the talk show pundits consider to be anyone who doesn't automatically vote Republican in any election. |
Maybe if you would take off you Obama clouded glasses you would see the holes in his stories. This is so much like `1992 when the left dismissed and attacked those bring out Clinton's affoars with Flowers - and the rape charge Ms Mroadrick made.
Again, the same people who attack and trash conservatives for racist remarks see nothing wrong with Obam's commenst and his nutjof pastor
It is sad so many people agree with him, and/or dismiss such hate |
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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So you applt that to liberals who lable conservatives nazi's, fascists, bible thumping rednecks warmongers, meanspirited, and, racists? |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I make sure a name sticks before I apply it.
This really isn't an "us against them" or a "me against the world" thing, munchkin.
You can debate without assuming everyone is out to get you. (If you feel Coppy is coming at you too strong, just distract him with a rare beer.) 
edited to correct spelling error
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: | I make sure a name sticks before I apply it.
This really isn't an "us against them" or a "me against the world" thing, munchkin.
You can debate without assuming everyone is out to get you. (If you feel Coppy is coming at you to strong, just distract him with a rare beer.) |
I do not feel people are coming at me hard - they are maing the usual lame excuses the Obama supporters are using on TV and radio. If this is the best the Obama people can do it explains why Obama is melting down in the polls
All the Obamamanics are doing is showing the long satnding double standards the left is famous for
I do not hate any liberal - period. I have a deep hate toward the terrorists who want all of us dead
As far as liberals all I want is for them to be politically defeated. |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I guess my problem here is that you are grouping everyone into a category.
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All the Obamamanics are doing is showing the long satnding double standards the left is famous for...
...As far as liberals all I want is for them to be politically defeated. |
You say it's THE Left, THE Liberals.
IMO, that is just the same as Rev. Wright blaming an entire race for what a some white people did. (THE White Man.)
Oh yeah, and I think you're mistaken in your opinion about The Left. There are just as many whack jobs on The Right.
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: | I guess my problem here is that you are grouping everyone into a category.
| munchkin wrote: |
All the Obamamanics are doing is showing the long satnding double standards the left is famous for...
...As far as liberals all I want is for them to be politically defeated. |
You say it's THE Left, THE Liberals.
IMO, that is just the same as Rev. Wright blaming an entire race for what a some white people did. (THE White Man.)
Well so far I have seen ONE liberal Democrat who has taken Obama to task with his lame excuses
He was on Fox last night debating a liberal supporter of Obama
He is Pat Caddell who is a Democrat pollster who worked for Pres Carter and has trying to make his point to Susan Estrich who ran Carters failed reelection bid
Again, I call them as I see them
Oh yeah, and I think you're mistaken in your opinion about The Left. There are just as many whack jobs on The Right. |
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: | I guess my problem here is that you are grouping everyone into a category.
| munchkin wrote: |
All the Obamamanics are doing is showing the long satnding double standards the left is famous for...
...As far as liberals all I want is for them to be politically defeated. |
You say it's THE Left, THE Liberals.
IMO, that is just the same as Rev. Wright blaming an entire race for what a some white people did. (THE White Man.)
Oh yeah, and I think you're mistaken in your opinion about The Left. There are just as many whack jobs on The Right. |
Wright IS blaming all whites for all the problems (real or not) blacks face
He even took a shot at Bill Clinton - the first black President
The left wack jobs (like Wright) get a pass while the rights wack job are savaged and calls for them to step down are loud, clear, and constant |
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.45chel
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I don't agree with what Wright said, it ticked me off, but I don't see what there is he can step down from, he is retiring from preaching (at a church where the congregation loved him) and he was removed from whatever position it was that he had with Obama's campaign. What else is there?
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munchkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: | | I don't agree with what Wright said, it ticked me off, but I don't see what there is he can step down from, he is retiring from preaching (at a church where the congregation loved him) and he was removed from whatever position it was that he had with Obama's campaign. What else is there? |
I do not give a rats a** about Wright. As I have said many times - it is about Obam's judgement and credibility
I do not go to church to hear sermons about Americ's foreign policy.
Obama can't say he did not know. By his own admission he knew about some of these comments
He has a double standard about people he has relationships with who make racist comment
He has told different stories about the same incidents
He gave over $20,000 to the racist church
Judgement and credibility - that is the issue |
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anonymous_coward
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| munchkin wrote: |
So you applt that to liberals who lable conservatives nazi's, fascists, bible thumping rednecks warmongers, meanspirited, and, racists? |
i know i do, noone should label all cons with any of those (though there are some who are). my momma taught me a long time ago that two wrongs don't make a right, so maybe you should think about that. |
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munchkin
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| anonymous_coward wrote: | | munchkin wrote: |
So you applt that to liberals who lable conservatives nazi's, fascists, bible thumping rednecks warmongers, meanspirited, and, racists? |
i know i do, noone should label all cons with any of those (though there are some who are). my momma taught me a long time ago that two wrongs don't make a right, so maybe you should think about that. |
I do not know why I should consider it -but you need to. By giving Obama a pass and trying to spin the clear lack of jugdement on his part; and the different accounts he has given - he has made many wrongs and has doing nothing right |
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Coppy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't label conservatives as racists... where are you getting this garbage. Crawl out of your pundit hole and join the real world. |
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