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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Torgo wrote: | | munchkin wrote: | | Showing off your debating skills again eh? |
This from the guy who ran squealing from our last encounter, whimpering nonsense about the Playboy Mansion and boobs...
You are so outclassed here, in every way, I can't understand why anyone wastes time on you.
Myself included. I feel like the bully who can't resist tripping the retarded kid on the playground.
We'll do this again April 23, okay? |
Squealing? You and the other liberal moonbats are the ones squealing
Crying and panting how evil Republicans are destroying the election process - while ignoring your own parties manipulation of the election process
Plus, the votes do NOT pick your candidate. The Super delegates are the ones who are going to pick your nominee
Pledged delegates can also decide who they will support
Party leades do not trust the voters to make the correct choice for Presidnet
So Hillary may very well be able to take the nomination - and the war in the Dem party will continue
Which is the reason for Operation Chaos
Ok, now it is your turn. Now change the subject and go into attack mode |
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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Coppy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2251 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think those are really 54 Double D's.... I'm thinking more like 36 C's. |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | | I don't think those are really 54 Double D's.... I'm thinking more like 36 C's. |
Maybe
But I am pointing out 2 things
1) What is being preached in "sermons" in black Churches
2) And the war within the Dem party is getting worse |
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Coppy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2251 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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1) So what?
2) No one believes this (or cares) but people like you on the very fringe of right-wing politics. This is not indicative at all of how moderate, free-thinking people perceive any of this. Yes, even Republicans. |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | 1) So what?
2) No one believes this (or cares) but people like you on the very fringe of right-wing politics. This is not indicative at all of how moderate, free-thinking people perceive any of this. Yes, even Republicans. |
Oh, but if a white guy would have sid the same things YOU and your liberal buddies would care
But since it was a black guy you look the other way
Again, liberals have a clear set of double standards. One set for them, the other for the rest of us |
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Coppy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 2251 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, maybe there is a double standard when it comes to race and discussions about blacks and whites... and maybe it's not such a bad thing. |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | | Well, maybe there is a double standard when it comes to race and discussions about blacks and whites... and maybe it's not such a bad thing. |
Only when thr liberals are making the racist and hate filled statements |
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Coppy

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| What liberals? This Wright guy? He's not running for office. Al Sharpton? Please... |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | | What liberals? This Wright guy? He's not running for office. Al Sharpton? Please... |
Lame attempt at trying to deflect the issue
Wright is a hate filled liberal and most of his church is following his lead
and so are you based on his posts |
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Stopping_By
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 2 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have been reading a lot of blogs, and I cannot believe the level of ignorance, and gullability of so many people regarding a 15-30 second snippet of a sermon that’s been shoved down American’s throats ad-nauseum, by the news media (mainly, FOX News, and most especially Sean Hannity) and now Greta VanSusteren has joined the fray as well by hanging onto every little mention, or tidbit, they can find to keep this nonsense going.
My question is: “Has anyone really done any independent research on all that’s being fed to us by the media??”…..I HAVE!!
What I found is something that has opened my eyes. The extent to what, not only the media (FOX in particular), but also blinded loyal voters, and corrupt politicians (who want to win “at any cost”) will go, to decieve the masses - who they know they can count on to remain ill-informed, due to their laziness in researching a topic.
I found two videos that contain the “out of context” soundbites of Rev. Wright’s sermons that totally put his words into a “real context”, and words that should put the biased, biggoted media to shame, simply because they are words that ring true.
Take a listen, if you dare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw[/url] _________________ "Every man is right in his own eyes" |
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AnonyMouse

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 400
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Last week I watched the Wright video you linked to. As a Jesus follower, I found myself agreeing with almost everything he said. I wish I could find his complete sermons somewhere. He is a powerful and from-the-gut, honest preacher; maybe even a prophet.
What this man was saying, just weeks after 9/11, was profoundly truthful and Godly. He was predicting the wrongheaded way the government would react and calling us to something better, something higher. I'm just disappointed that the last minutes were cut off because he was giving useful, Godly, practical advice.
Racists and haters can't hear it because...well...they're racists and haters. But any true Christian, white or black, ought to be able to hear his words as prophetic. He was speaking God's truth. And people of conscience who aren't Christian will hear the truth in it too.
Oddly the people who are the most incensed were the same ones excusing, and even agreeing with, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson when they were blaming America for the attacks:
(Falwell: "what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve...I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen.")
(Robertson "Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do.")
They blamed "sinners" for the attacks as punishment from God on America - completely misrepresenting the love of God who never punishes innocents for the actions of others. Somehow that's all a-okay for the right-winger Christianists. It's just fine with them to paint a picture of a vengeful, angry God; blocking people from knowing the God who is comprehensively seen in Jesus - a completely and absolutely loving, compassionate, merciful, and forgiving God.
But this man, Wright, dares to point out how American government actions - unjust, damaging acts against nations and people groups over hundreds of years - have natural consequences (you reap what you sow - this is a fundamental truth) and the right wingers go completely nuts.
And the lap-dog media just eats up the soundbites and pukes it back, and people who don't have the ability to think independently swallow it hole and ask for more. I choose to believe that there are more people like you, Stopping_by, who are willing to look deeper, to see with an open mind and who can assess reality fairly. You give me hope.
The media certainly has culpability in the coarsening of American life and discourse, but so do the people who don't question what they hear. And so do the people who feed the hate, who encourage the rage, who sow divisiveness - they create racial tension and hostility and ill-will then point to Obama, who is trying to heal the divide, and squeal "Look at the racist!"
It is as discouraging as it is disgusting.
Soon there will be the bleating and howling from the racists here, spewing their caustic phony outrage and again targeting their favorite scapegoats - the oh so scary liberals and blacks. They are as predictable as they are pathetic, but somehow we get sucked into responding to them, don't we? - as if they can be engaged in any constructive dialogue or reasoned with in some fashion. Why can't we just let them burn themselves out on their rage and hate? Why do we feed into it by acknowledging any of their rhetoric? We give it the status of legitimate discourse when we argue back.
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Whoa - that got long, huh?
If you got the whole way through, my kind and patient soapbox brothers and sisters, thanks for reading my rant. You are ladies and gentlemen of good will and grace, and I appreciate your indulgence.  |
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.45chel

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 2723 Location: Chambersburg
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Here 'Mouse
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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: |
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How typical of thre left to use the old worn out excuse a racist liberal was taken out of context
Any Italians out there? Wright just used racist comments against you.
“(Jesus’) enemies had their opinion about Him,” Wright wrote in a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November/December 2007 issue. “The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans.”
Wright continued, “From the circumstances surrounding Jesus’ birth (in a barn in a township that was under the Apartheid Roman government that said his daddy had to be in), up to and including the circumstances surrounding Jesus’ death on a cross, a Roman cross, public lynching Italian style. …
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200803/POL20080326a.html
I wonder what group of people Wright will attack next?
We know Obama will not say a word about it, and stand by Wright (and probably send him another $22,500 like he did last year) |
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AnonyMouse

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 400
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| .45chel wrote: | Here 'Mouse
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Ooof! Thanks Chel.  |
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