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Coppy
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.45chel
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These have to be, some of the most retarded females at a school dance that I have seen in quite awhile.
If you've ever been to a school dance, I'm sure you realize that that is pretty bad!
It's not the hand signs, but the expressions that are truly laughable. I look and I think "Loser." Actually, the connection between the word and these females is so fast, I don't think it actually requires thought.
Adding the gestures is just icing (nasty, poo-covered icing, but icing nonetheless.)
And just what exactly is Queen of Dorky Expressions, Ms. Sparkly Dress doing anyway?!! Some elite, str8 thugging sign that is the perfect complement to her expression and attire?!
I care not one iota about stupid teenage pranks, really (tame, completely harmless, personal favorites were pron centerfolds taped to skylights and the release of mice, rats, crickets and chickens in the hallways--I'll not share better ---the up and comers should get creative not copy.) but sometimes the attitudes conveyed through actions and the way teens and pre-teens hold themselves just makes me want to beat them to a pulp and subject them to mass humiliation.
But I hate kids, so WTH do I know?
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Coppy
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think that first, smiling girl gets it. |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think she gets anything.
Period.
Except taken advantage of and her parents' love.
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cookieclaygirl
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Coppy wrote: | | I don't think that first, smiling girl gets it. |
the other girls do tho. that's why they get all the boys' attentions....hehe....  |
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mom of 4
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Anyways,,, Here I am trying to get some answers or opinions on all the kids in our lovely town of Chambersburg and I get This!!
Not what I was expecting. |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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 Sorry, Mom of 4!
Forgive us? 
There are some really rotten kids around here. I wish I knew what to do about that, but my kid is actually in the early stages of a bona fide, diagnosed, emotional shutdown due to peer interaction!
So, we've had to change his environment and begin more intense therapy.
What worries me is all the children out there who are facing the same things, but not talking about it. Or the children whose parents think it's just a phase or a learning experience...Because up until a few months ago, that was what I was doing. "You just need to avoid the kids you have problems with and ignore them when they try to start stuff, hon. You aren't always going to get along with everybody. Think about some compromises you can make that might improve the situation." That's what I told him.
Then he started having random stomach aches. His nail biting and finger chewing and other odd little tics all started to get worse. And I kept talking and suggesting things to him that never seemed to work because it wasn't all him and nothing was changing on the other side.
Point is that, as a regular average citizen, there is only so much you can do to control another person's behavior.
Other than what you did, Mom of 4, I cannot think of anything else that could be done. But, just for you, I'll keep trying! 
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cookieclaygirl
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| i still think it boils down to manners and common sense. those are 2 things i see so few of anymore.... |
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bella
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | | i still think it boils down to manners and common sense. those are 2 things i see so few of anymore.... |
Add respect to that as well. So few kids have it. So few parents are teaching it. More often than not, I have seen parents who want to coddle their kids and make excuses for them, hold their hands, and restrict any kind of discipline for their poor choices. Kids are learning that it is ok to disrespect people and that manners are some sort of elitist thing instead of a common courtesy thing.
Parents are relinquishing all control and befriending their children instead of parenting. Kids have so much freedom and parents don't seem to care as much what their kids are saying and doing. I am extremely involved with the elementary school that my children attend and I am, at times, downright repulsed by the actions and words of some parents. Discipline is a thing of the past. Parents are not consistent and do not follow through. I have been truly shocked at some of the serious behavior issues the faculty has had to deal with on an ongoing basis. The classrooms aren't what they used to be either.
Two of the things that are a requirement in my home are respect and safety. It's a no-brainer really. If anyone is violating those two factors, then it just escalates into having no manners, no common sense, little to no value for others.
I am steadfast when it comes to bullies. I will not tolerate it and will be an advocate for anyone who falls victim to bullies. I will push hard until something is done about it. I have found that you just have to demand respect and be intolerant to punks. |
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Torgo
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| Coppy wrote: | | I don't think that first, smiling girl gets it. |
Perhaps Ronnie James Dio was her date?
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cookieclaygirl
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growing up i was never once 'paddled' 'reprimanded' or 'scolded' (no punishment in any way, shape or form)...i was taught to "talk it out" (god, lucky for them i talk alot)....and if i actually did something bad (which actually i rarely did cuz i was, well, a goodie-goodie as several of those aforementioned bullies would call me) we'd discuss it and say why it was bad/etc.
and yes, respect.
there is not enough of it.
and kindness.
i wish there was more kindness in the world. i live by the kindness motto. |
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cookieclaygirl
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Torgo wrote: |
Perhaps Ronnie James Dio was her date? |
har!
or else she was marsha brady waiting for davy jones....  lol.... |
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mom of 4
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="bella"] | cookieclaygirl wrote: | | i still think it boils down to manners and common sense. those are 2 things i see so few of anymore.... |
Manners and common sense are worth more these days (in a family such as mine) than a million dollars. I to demand respect and safety at our home. If that is not in the picture than be sure you'll be corrected. My girls have all grown up respecting all who come in there paths. We are though having a huge problem on the school bus too. Kids just don't give eachother any space. And when the bus driver is asked to move seats it's done with anger. Now if you can't talk to a bus driver without atitude than who do you talk to? The same atitude comes from teachers when a simple question is being asked about home-work or failing grades. This just makes me so angry. I too am a mother that is very involved in school work and activities, and see all the time the crude remarks from parents, AND TEACHERS! If there is something that I don't understand about markings on report cards or progres reports I am left to feel like an idiot. Now if our Family could afford Private school we would be there by now but, as a family of 6 that is just out of the ? right now. Thanks for all helpful ideas, I will continue to do my best at helping kids and parents with the same problems as myself. |
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.45chel
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | growing up i was never once 'paddled' 'reprimanded' or 'scolded' (no punishment in any way, shape or form)...i was taught to "talk it out" (god, lucky for them i talk alot)....and if i actually did something bad (which actually i rarely did cuz i was, well, a goodie-goodie as several of those aforementioned bullies would call me) we'd discuss it and say why it was bad/etc.
and yes, respect.
there is not enough of it.
and kindness.
i wish there was more kindness in the world. i live by the kindness motto. |
I agree with your view, but I feel I must point out that not every child responds as you did to 'talking it out'. We are all different and learn by different means.
I began as a talk it out kind of parent ( and, boy, can my baby talk! He gets it honest.  ) but my child learned to manipulate people & situations and apply guilt to get his way.
He isn't some evil mastermind, we just have to use different methods with him. (Actually, we're still looking for a 'perfect' method.)
We still talk about things and have discussions about how best to deal with certain situations---I wouldn't trade our conversations for the world.
And we do joke around and goof off with 'the boy'...I suppose that we do not always maintain the traditional parent-child relationship, but we do have an emphasis on manners and respect for others.
Is he perfect? Yah right! 
But we're working on it.
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cookieclaygirl
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| mom of 4 wrote: | | ...and see all the time the crude remarks from parents, AND TEACHERS! If there is something that I don't understand about markings on report cards or progres reports I am left to feel like an idiot. |
see this just makes me sad. it's actually why i got into teaching...(i teach college lvl tho)...because so much of what i saw in the classroom i disagreed with and i felt could be done better. i try to keep my classroom fun but organized and to maintain an environment of positive learning for ALL involved. again, using the kindness & respect etc rule...
i usually start my classroom on day one with: i can be your best teacher ever or your worst nightmare...it's up to you to decide which way i go.
LOL....
hang in there, mom4....things'll get better...teach them common sense and that not all have it and to rise above the morons.
you may want to phrase that better, though. *giggle* |
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