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Good Clean Fun or Government Sponsored Prayer?
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cookieclaygirl wrote:

i think that it is odd to have the gov't sponsor religious concerts.


It also seems to be unconstitutional. I don't know; we go through great lengths to keep sanctioned prayer out of schools (although I know that the Tuscarora School District says the lord's prayer before every board meeting, and probably every other Podunk district in this county too) yet the Parks and Recreation department sponsors a Christian concert complete with "praise" and "worship."

It's not odd, or strange, or stupid because the music is bad... it's WRONG.

That's the point I'm trying to make and I'm surprised I'm the only one who is legitimately upset if my tax money is paying for this. We all just roll over, but it's crap like this that keeps Franklin County in the 1950's.
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.45chel



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is wrong. Absolutely.

And we are completely within our rights to complain about it as a violation of Church and State.
Controversy ensues.
Crazy Zealots scream that religion is under attack.
The concert pulls in HUGE numbers as people feel that they must attend to prove that they are good Christians and the organizers can point to the attendance numbers as justification as to why we should have more Christian concerts.

Better to let it fall on its face on its own and point to the lack of draw as a reason to not schedule any in the future.
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.45chel wrote:

The concert pulls in HUGE numbers as people feel that they must attend to prove that they are good Christians and the organizers can point to the attendance numbers as justification as to why we should have more Christian concerts.


but if they don't go, they're gonna go to hell.

now, we don't want that, do we coppy?

harharharhar....

well, i guess that's the 3rd time in a year some of 'them' get out (xmas, easter and the concert)...
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.45chel



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse the link, it was the first I found with the article. The 'comments' section was...special.


Quote:
MIAMI (AP) - Florida drivers can order more than 100 specialty license plates celebrating everything from manatees to the Miami Heat, but one now under consideration would be the first in the nation to explicitly promote a specific religion.

The Florida Legislature is considering a specialty plate with a design that includes a Christian cross, a stained-glass window and the words “I Believe.”

Rep. Edward Bullard, the plate’s sponsor, said people who “believe in their college or university” or “believe in their football team” already have license plates they can buy. The new design is a chance for others to put a tag on their cars with “something they believe in,” he said.

If the plate is approved, Florida would become the first state to have a license plate featuring a religious symbol that’s not part of a college logo. Approval would almost certainly face a court challenge.

The problem with the state manufacturing the plate is that it “sends a message that Florida is essentially a Christian state” and, second, gives the “appearance that the state is endorsing a particular religious preference,” said Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.”



http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/04/24/aclu-will-challenge-florida-license-plate-with-crossof-course/




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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeks.

hum...

yeah. that needs to be looked at.
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Alex



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the states should only issue one, standard, plate....it's a lot easier to identify a vehicle when necessary.
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida has about 50 different license plates already. It's out of control. They make a killing on all the tacky morons there who want a manatee on their stupid plates or whatever else they have.

I agree; each state, one plate.
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sassy moose



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virginia has more than 180 specialty plates. Some of them are kind of cool, and since they're inexpensive, a LOT of people have one. I do agree that it's difficult to tell what state someone is from when they have some of the crazier-looking ones. Virginia has one that's a Tibetan flag, and it's really difficult to read.
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anonymous_coward



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
I think the states should only issue one, standard, plate....it's a lot easier to identify a vehicle when necessary.


when is it necessary?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anonymous_coward wrote:

when is it necessary?


When playing license plate bingo
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ZiggyStardust



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a native Virginian, and the amount of license plates to choose from is indeed ridonkeylous.

There should just be one plate per state. It's just a friggin car. Get a plate and be done with it.
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Coppy



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZiggyStardust wrote:
Get a plate and be done with it.


Bravo.

I can't believe states allow it for the simple reason that people, including police, may have a hard time differentiating between states from a car that, oh, say, was involved in a hit-and-run or some sort of robbery. Plus it annoys me. That should be reason enough. Cool

Seriously; one of PA's vanity plates has a friggin tiger on it. A tiger? WTeff!?
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/rowl!!!!


(yeah, i've wondered that too.....maybe cuz it's a jungle out there. or it was on sale)
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everybody wants to pretend they're exotic.
A special tag is cheaper than tiger striped seat covers.




Personally, I've been eyeing some tiger print shoes. Mary Jane and Oxford TYVM Very Happy
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger print shoes. sexy!

i went thru a "i'm making my clothes stage" (sigh...artists) and i found this faux fur that was white with blue tiger stripes that i thought was the coolest thing since sliced bread (i was 17 at the time, bear with me...and i was a 'clasher' in high school)....so i made this twiggy style mini skirt jumper out of it.....sigh....and i wore it in public. double sigh.


should i mention the matching purse i made to wear w/it?


ugh.
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