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When you call 911, is the closest help coming?
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mik27



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: When you call 911, is the closest help coming? Reply with quote

To my suprise the awnser is no. I did a little investigative work after recently needing and ambulance on Grindstone hill Rd out near Marion Rd. After waiting about 15 mins for an ambulance I was furious and to my surprise the ambulance was from Greencastle. I asked why Marion did not come and they told me I was in Antim township so my service came from them. I ask WHY!!! Why do I have to wait for an ambulance 9-10 miles away when there is one 2 1/2 miles away. How has this not been asked before, what should it matter what bourgh, township or county your in, when I call for help why would we not get the closest service. Im only mentioning a couple dept's because its all I checked on but Im sure it is like this in other area's as well. I also found out that the township supervisors are responsible for signing off on which Fire dept goes where. How is Greencastle going to almost in Marion and clear out to State Line wouldnt Maugansville be alot closer. There was a call for assistance from a State Trooper about 2 months ago, he was requesting EMS for a motorist on the Exit 10 on ramp in Marion. The ambulance that responded was Greencastle again, the Trooper was enraged by how long he waited when there was an ambulance 1 mile away but he waited for one that was 8 miles away. The trooper asked Marion why they did not come? was no one there to get the ambulance on the street or what? There was staff at the station but from exit 10 to State line belongs to Greencastle and is dispatched through 911 that way. Im sorry but if im a 911 dispatcher and there is a call for help at the Marion exit why on earth would I call for Greencastle??? Yesterday I passed an accident at Kauffman rd and Rt 11(by crossroads Dairy) once again Greencastle fire dept was there, I drove a mile down the road and Marion's fire trucks are sitting at their firehouse and abunch of people were there, why did they not come?? I did learn that Marion does run a small portion of Antrim township consisting of clayhill rd between Rt. 11 and Grindston hill and a small area out Kauffman rd west by Lehmans Egg factory however if im involved in an accident in from of Gibbles resturant why does greencastle come 4 1/2 miles when Marion is less than 2 miles away. Like I said im sorry for only mentioning a couple dept's im sure there's more, If I were you I would find out who would respond to your house. TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS!!! PLEASE FIX THIS!!!. I found this all surprising and shocking that this is aloud to occur. I can assure you if it's me, my lawyer will be in someone's butt asking WHY !!!!!!
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me



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: EMS Reply with quote

Mik,

It's the not the 911 centers fault nor is it Marions.

The fault lies with Antrim Twp Supervisors as they have the authority to decide who does or does not respond in their township.

This has been a battle for decades upon decades. You need to address it to them at their next public meeting.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!! Thats horrible.

I am sorry you had to wait so long! I hope you're okay now.
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Waughie



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will not take up dor the 911 dispatchers sitting in the courthouse basement. Thet are trained to read from a computer screen. Common sense is not praticed in the basement. The state police officer waiting on the interstate ramp has suffered from one of those computer screen, no common sense mistakes. The dispatch screen says from exit to exit, a certain department will cover that section of the interstate. It doesn't matter, that another CLOSER department is sitting idlely by. This has happened numerous times. Most times, the closer department will come up on the air responding, and most times, the farther away department knowing the circumstances, will have the closer department continue in. I've heard this happen between Shippensburg, Fayetteville, and Chambersburg. It all comes down to the people in the field using their common sense, and not waiting for the communications center to disregard the screen.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Say what? Reply with quote

Queen,

Where is St Paul Dr in Fayettevilles first due and where is there a Dentist Office in the 7-7 Box?

I only know of one Dentist out that way and it's on Alandale.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: WHAT? Reply with quote

Queen,

I remember readin you're involved in Emergency Services locally, so you should already know that NONE of Norland Ave is in Greene Twp (YET) , it's all in the Boro of C-Burg. Second off, IF it was in Greene Twp, it would be a 44-01 or 44-02 Box for Sta 4.

The first due BLS ambo would be Co 1, then Co 100, AND THEN CO 7, the first due ALS dept would be Co 100 and then CO 7.

This has nothing to do with Co 7 or Greene Twp, so PLEASE know your facts when you post this kind of non-sense!!!!

Matter of fact, Greene Twp Supers are VERY concerned with the closest depts running and are VERY involved with review and approval of box cards.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Just FYI Reply with quote

To those readers that are NOT associated with emergency services, contrary to Queen's opinion, in the vast majority of the county, the closest fire & EMS units do respond to your calls for service, especially in Greene & Guilford Twp's.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT? Reply with quote

me wrote:
Queen,

I remember readin you're involved in Emergency Services locally, so you should already know that NONE of Norland Ave is in Greene Twp (YET) , it's all in the Boro of C-Burg. Second off, IF it was in Greene Twp, it would be a 44-01 or 44-02 Box for Sta 4.

The first due BLS ambo would be Co 1, then Co 100, AND THEN CO 7, the first due ALS dept would be Co 100 and then CO 7.

This has nothing to do with Co 7 or Greene Twp, so PLEASE know your facts when you post this kind of non-sense!!!!

Matter of fact, Greene Twp Supers are VERY concerned with the closest depts running and are VERY involved with review and approval of box cards.


[color=green]Me,

Laughing Wink


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.45chel



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT? Reply with quote

QueenofHearts wrote:


To the rest of you I apologize; you know I never get mad. I just wanted to set the facts straight so that you stay informed. Thank you for letting me rant.
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Queenie



Oh, don't lie! You do to get mad. I've seen you on Topix and in here---you just hide it better than some!

Hail to the Queen!
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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the nickname pelepompeii, i think y'all know i can get mad. hehe....

and topix. sigh.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: WOW Reply with quote

Queen,

Take a pill, a deeeeep breath and a shot ow whiskey!!!!


"Listen to me when I tell you something. St Paul Rd., Norland Ave. from St Paul Rd and back to Walker Rd. and all of those businesses in that little area is in GREENE TOWNSHIP. THEY ARE IN THE 7-7 BOX! FVFD IS THE FIRST DUE. "

WRONG!!!!


Walker Road is in the boro from LWE at Long John Silvers to just past the Probation Office!!! This includes all the new streets off Walker. Norland never has been anywhere but in the BORO OF CHAMBERSBURG !! And even if it was in Greene Twp, it is STILL a Sta 4 box and always has and always will be.

"I know very well the Supervisors are working on this. It is a daunting task. I am not an idiot; I've worked with emergency services on a volunteer basis for well over 35 years. Let me see you put in 55,000 hours of volunteer work. Sometimes it is debilitating work, sometimes you want to scream at the top of you lungs because you are so dang happy. "

WOW, I'm impressed and never said you were an idiot. But iyou're not helping yourself when ya keep posting info lacking facts or plain downright incorrect info.

I was involved in the fire service for 35 years also and spent 20 years as a chief level officer including Fire Chief, so I know what it takes. I have responded on many thousands of calls and many, many in the area you talk of and guess what, THIS AREA WAS ALWAYS AND STILL IS A STA 4 BOX.

"Don't you dare try to correct me again. I will not post someting I do not know to be correct. I don't think I have ever been so insulted in my life."

And who is to blame for this, me? I don't think so. You're the one that keeps saying that all these streets are in Greene Twp and are Co 7's first due. If you spent the time on the job as you say, you should still have some contacts with the CFD that can verify what I've said above.


So don't get on your freakin soap box to me lady, your wrong, admit your wrong and guess what, unl
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

(I wish I was feeling better, Moe's almost sounds good! ) Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: WOW Reply with quote

me wrote:

So don't get on your freakin soap box to me lady, your wrong, admit your wrong and guess what, unl


>>>>Points out name of forum to Me.


Um, so should the average citizen know what box we've been stuck in?
Or will that just get things started again? (If that is the case I definitely want to know!!) Twisted Evil
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