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QueenofHearts



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: News not getting reported in a timely fashion Reply with quote

They "done it again".

Yesterday there was a terrible fire in Chambersburg. Horrible smoke could be seen from mile marker 3, for goodness sake. A burn victim was flown out from being trapped in a burning dwelling.

WHERE IS THE STORY?

This didn't happen at midnight; it didn't even happen in the late evening. It was in the afternoon. Way before the time needed to get the story and put the paper to bed.

P.O., wake up! City editor, take charge of your duties.

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koozie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet the Waynesboro newspaper has an article about 3 portable toilets being burned Confused
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mjr260



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently nobody polices the PO, they do what they want when they want!
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QueenofHearts



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjr260 wrote:
Apparently nobody polices the PO, they do what they want when they want!


Welcome mjr260! Please expound on you reasonings. (I agree with you, by the way...)
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Oh No! It's Sluggo!



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for once the "queen" nad i agree. the public onion uses photografers that have credencials from 180 miles away. that photog has trespassd into the sceen of acidents and been told to go away then he claims he is a fire polce. the po used these pictres.
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Mister Me



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cookieclaygirl



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, welcome mjr260


yumm....snickers really satisfies Very Happy
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.45chel



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my work here is done. (TY Cookie)



For the record, the photos that the P.O. runs seem to be the same as some of those posted on the local Fire Department websites, which leads me to believe that a member of the department took the photos and sold some to the Public Opinion. Standard procedure, if I'm not mistaken.

Before being picked on for not reporting stories in a timely fashion, the PO staff was picked on for typos and errors.
Maybe they want to make sure they get it right.
Maybe someone is not happy with their reporting and is stonewalling them on information. (Am I the only one who remembers the issue with our beloved Coroner not providing information because of the Warner case? I wonder if Conner has any supporters in the fire department or any other departments.)

Honestly, I don't know what's going on and neither does anyone else. I don't always agree with every action the Public Opinion makes, but I don't feel this incident was serious enough to get upset about.

Heck, I have responders running by my house almost every night and day going towards Menno Haven and even though I wish I knew what was going on that this could be perpetual thing (Doggone Seniors pulling fire alarms!!) I realize that the Fire Departments and Emergency Services respond to so much stuff--it can't all be reported.

Just go check it out on their websites.

Or ask Queen because she has an 'in' Wink
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mjr260



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QueenofHearts wrote:
mjr260 wrote:
Apparently nobody polices the PO, they do what they want when they want!


Welcome mjr260! Please expound on you reasonings. (I agree with you, by the way...)


My Experience with the Paper is they enjoy giving one side of the story and it's usually their side. I sent a letter to the Editor about a story they wrote bashing the PO and also people who placed quotes on line bashing a high school athlete and they didn't print the story and won't give me a reason why.

I figure to work for the paper the only job requirement would be the ability to write in complete sentences, so with today's software programs that would mean anybody can apply and ethics don't really matter!
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QueenofHearts



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards to Menno Haven...Automatic Fire alarms happen occasionally however, Chel you must remember that Menno Haven is a nursing home. Most of the time anything over a simple stomach ache, they call for an ambulance. I even suggested once that they keep one stationed there to cut down on patient costs. So the laong answer to your question is boring, automatic alarms and sick patients.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I'm disappointed. I was just sure it was geriatric pranks!

I'd be a pariah if I suggested they be fined for false alarms, wouldn't I?
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sassy moose



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime someone in a newsroom hears "entrapment" on the scanner, someone with a camera runs out the door in a frenzy.

Also "residential structure fire" and "fully involved" and "shots fired" and "seen with a gun" and "armed robbery"

Otherwise, the scanner goes batty for a few seconds, then you hear an address followed by "sick person" or something, and everyone stays calm.

My favorite was one night when I was still working at a newspaper, a call came in from some woman who said that her ex-boyfriend was coming by the house to pick up his guns, so she put them on the front porch and locked herself inside. She didn't want the cops to come over but wanted them to stake the place out and make sure he didn't do anything.
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Brian



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh No! It's Sluggo! wrote:
for once the "queen" nad i agree. the public onion uses photografers that have credencials from 180 miles away. that photog has trespassd into the sceen of acidents and been told to go away then he claims he is a fire polce. the po used these pictres.


Even though it seems "drama" will keep Sluggo off this board (indefinitely). I feel compelled to address this specific post as I am both a Fire Police in the county and a Public Opinion Freelance Photographer.

I don't know of any other Fire Police who are also Public Opinion Freelancers, but that doesn't mean they don't exist (so my first question to myself is if this post was directed at me).

I live in Greene Twp. not far from the borough and run many calls in the area.

I never, I repeat NEVER use my Fire Police credentials on the scene of an accident/emergency I am at to take pictures for the Public Opinion. To do so would:
1) Cause issue with my Fire Company
2) Put me in a legal liability situation regarding HIPPA and other confidentiality laws ALL Fire Dept. members are to adhere to.

Hence, I have a blue light, a Fire Police vest, and a Fire Police Hat. However, I also have a yellow light, a ANSI III reflective vest (with no lettering), and a yellow reflective construction type hard hat I use on scenes.

I never take photos while being dispatched as Fire Police (again, a rule against our Dept... but even more importantly puts me into a liability situation).

I take my role as a Fire Police very seriously. Sure I know most Fire Police in Franklin County (small county, small number of fire police, and I always try to introduce myself). This has helped gain a rapport with fire police (and state troopers) and fire departments in the county that other freelancers don't have.

I also take my roll as a Public Opinion Freelance Photographer very seriously. Since I am a Fire Police, I know the LEGAL laws regarding scene safety (both from a preservation of evidence angle, and from a protecting the public angel). I never over-step my boundaries and this again has resulted in gained "trust" from local Departments.

This all amounts to me having a vested interest (as an Active Fire Dept. member in the county) to take on-scene photos of my fellow Fire Depts working on a scene. Some small incidents, some quite large. Either way I think the community needs to see exactly what our Departments (who are mainly 100% volunteer) do for this county. Fire Departments have recognized this and usually accept me with great enthusiasm on a scene.

The main point of this long-winded post is that respect and trust is one of the most important things when being in the breaking news photography business. I know what is "ok" and what is not. I won't sit and argue with an Officer (like some freelancers) regarding "right of access." Some photos I have been allowed to take (both for the Public Opinion, and also for individual department sites) has been solely because of this respect and trust.

Thanks,
Brian
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.45chel



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Brian!

Long time no see (yes, I'm scolding you for not posting.)

Thank you for your explanation, though it was not necessary.


As I am sure you have realized, Sluggo was a FD member and apparently had an axe to grind and thought the Soapbox was a good place to get his kicks and I think most of us recognized his 'specialness' early on---->which is just another way of saying, no need to explain yourself.

Have a wonderful day and don't be a stranger!
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Brian



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.45chel wrote:
Hi Brian!

Long time no see (yes, I'm scolding you for not posting.)

Thank you for your explanation, though it was not necessary.


As I am sure you have realized, Sluggo was a FD member and apparently had an axe to grind and thought the Soapbox was a good place to get his kicks and I think most of us recognized his 'specialness' early on---->which is just another way of saying, no need to explain yourself.

Have a wonderful day and don't be a stranger!


Hey chel!

I have been here (just lurking).

There was some issues with pictures I posted on the forum here awhile back. However that has now been cleared up. The Public Opinion will be providing me my own blog to post photos to regarding small to large accident/emergency scene photography. So be sure to check it out! (Should be up any day now).

Thanks,
Brian
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