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John Chambersburg
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 Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Obama momentum |
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| I just don't get the Obama momentum and hype. I think some of the American voters are blind, can't see, and one day will wake up when it is to late, to say OMG. I mean, it is so elementary to understand that Hillary Clinton has everything it takes to sit in the Oval Office...and on day 1, take the reins and run with them. OBAMA JUST DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. I'll tell you how bad I think it's gonna get...it will be worse that George Bush...so go figure. I have always been a democrat, my family all are democrats, and those who have gone on will roll over in their graves if I should vote anything different...but I'm slowing becoming a McCain democrat. Obama just does not have it. If he proves me wrong...tell me on this same blog...a few years from now...and I will eat Crow. |
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cookieclaygirl
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| i am right w/ya johnchambersburg...i think hillary is the most capable of candidates and her experience is what we need...not some cheerleader saying 'we need change we need change' and never really giving us viable solutions. i've had enough of inexperience, personally.... |
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John Chambersburg
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Cookieclaygirl, :D, if more people were just as smart as usin's. We all know we need change, from George Bush, who wouldn't?? but i'm with you, Obama doesn't say really WHAT change?? I'm just astounded at his following??
so, one more thought...it's either i become a McCain Democrat or I buckle down and support the party?!?! |
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cookieclaygirl
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exactly...all i hear is "we need change...change change change" and yes we do but...how...i never hear the how...and i'm sure the supporters will tell us that he has, however i remain unconvinced....
HILLARY POWER! |
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Coppy
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Obama momentum |
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| John Chambersburg wrote: | | II think some of the American voters are blind, can't see, and one day will wake up when it is to late, to say OMG. |
Sort of like all those American voters who supported Bush because of his experience and his no-nonsense approach?
I think that, like most left-leaning individuals deciding this election, if Hillary wins the nomination then it won't be such a bad thing.
I don't know, I feel like if you don't know the "how" or what Obama is trying to say, then you've never actually listened to his speeches. |
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anonymous_coward
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yeah, thank god she had the experience to vote for the iraq war and propose a gas tax holiday that would save us $30 over the course of the summer. Obama doesn't have the experience to pander to voters for short term support and long term harm to the country.
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Coppy
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Despite not being in the senate at the time, simply have the foresight to have the unpopular position of opposing the invasion of Iraq speaks volumes about Obama's decision making ability.
I'm sorry, "experience" is null and void now. Obama is a former Constitutional law professor and the ultimate non-partisan voice our country needs.
I still like Hillary and consider her an admirable and capable leader. I even wholeheartedly supported her early in the primaries. But I'm clearly a young, dumb, thoughtless, impressionable young person persuaded by Obama's firm grasp of the English language after toiling through 8 years of Bush buffoonery.
Can you blame me? |
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John Chambersburg
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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well, we are simply going to have 4 more years of buffoonery...only this time it will be McCain buffoonery. If you watch the polls as well as other reasoning, enough are going to jump ship, become McCain democrats (if Obama gets the nomination and as of now, in all liklihood he will) and McCain will be in the oval office in January. Simply put.
p.s. as for Hillary voting for the Iraq war, she along with the MAJORITY voted for it, BASED ON THE INTELLIGENCE AND INFORMATION THEY WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME!! |
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Pink Elephant in the Room
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| John Chambersburg wrote: | well, we are simply going to have 4 more years of buffoonery...only this time it will be McCain buffoonery. If you watch the polls as well as other reasoning, enough are going to jump ship, become McCain democrats (if Obama gets the nomination and as of now, in all liklihood he will) and McCain will be in the oval office in January. Simply put.
p.s. as for Hillary voting for the Iraq war, she along with the MAJORITY voted for it, BASED ON THE INTELLIGENCE AND INFORMATION THEY WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME!! |
Obama IS the Pink Elephant in the room. He cannot be pushed aside. I've watched nearly all of the debates, I've watched the Billary campaign say over and over and over exactly what they said in the 90's. It wasn't working then, it isn't going to work now.
Sen. Clinton voted to go to war because she wanted to go with the MAJORITY? Are you kidding me? If the MAJORITY jumped of the cliff I supposed she would, too.
Sen. Obama would research, then research again to assure him self and his constituints of the right things to do. IF the right thing was to go with the Majority...then he would. However, if not he would seek other ways. This is the type of Change we need as a country, as a government, and as a peacekeeper.
But, we are a country at war. A declared war on drugs. A declared war on terror. We need a Commander in Chief that can handle a job that large. Unfortunately, at this moment, neither Obama nor Clinton can do that job. We may have to suffer another four year under a Republican command to get us out of the two areas of conflicts we are in, the war on terror and the war on drugs. |
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anonymous_coward
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Pink Elephant in the Room wrote: | | John Chambersburg wrote: | well, we are simply going to have 4 more years of buffoonery...only this time it will be McCain buffoonery. If you watch the polls as well as other reasoning, enough are going to jump ship, become McCain democrats (if Obama gets the nomination and as of now, in all liklihood he will) and McCain will be in the oval office in January. Simply put.
p.s. as for Hillary voting for the Iraq war, she along with the MAJORITY voted for it, BASED ON THE INTELLIGENCE AND INFORMATION THEY WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME!! |
Obama IS the Pink Elephant in the room. He cannot be pushed aside. I've watched nearly all of the debates, I've watched the Billary campaign say over and over and over exactly what they said in the 90's. It wasn't working then, it isn't going to work now.
Sen. Clinton voted to go to war because she wanted to go with the MAJORITY? Are you kidding me? If the MAJORITY jumped of the cliff I supposed she would, too.
Sen. Obama would research, then research again to assure him self and his constituints of the right things to do. IF the right thing was to go with the Majority...then he would. However, if not he would seek other ways. This is the type of Change we need as a country, as a government, and as a peacekeeper.
But, we are a country at war. A declared war on drugs. A declared war on terror. We need a Commander in Chief that can handle a job that large. Unfortunately, at this moment, neither Obama nor Clinton can do that job. We may have to suffer another four year under a Republican command to get us out of the two areas of conflicts we are in, the war on terror and the war on drugs. |
how can the last two posters both admit that Hillary and McCain made a mistake invading Iraq, but that the only person against is at the time (Obama) is not the person we should trust now? Both arguments are made in equally disturbing ways, and both end up in drastically opposite directions.
Obama can bring change, and has shown us again and again he will tell us like it is, not what we want to hear, even if it is unpopular, so that the country moves in the right direction.
Also to John, are you going to be a McCain democrat? don't complain about the problem and then contribute to it |
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John Chambersburg
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The Majority voted to go to war, and Sen. Clinton's vote was on of the those votes. okay. let's get with the program. |
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John Chambersburg
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| Obama wasn't even part of the Senate at the time he says he was not for the war. so the word vote or him being against the war shouldn't even be associated with Obama. mute point. |
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John Chambersburg
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| of the three candidates, McCain, Obama, and Clinton...only Clinton has the experience to lead our country on day one in the oval office. This is a given. That is so elementary...i just don't see how so many Americans are missing this FACT. If she DOESN'T get the presidency...one morning America is going to wake up and say OMG. Too Too Late!! |
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anonymous_coward
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| most of our great Presidents didn't have experience prior to being elected, Lincoln, FDR, Teddy R (sort of), JFK. lately relatives of prior Presidents have shown us being close to power doesn't necessarily mean you'd make a good President. That doesn't mean that Hillary would be bad, but I maintain judgment is more important than experience (since noone really has experience being President). Obama has continuously shown good judgment, even when it hurts him politically (being against the gas tax holiday, Iraq war in 2003). Also he's shown he has the ability to unite people from both political persuasions, and get some initiatives passed. That's why I voted for him, and why others have. It's not because we're stupid, naive, or anything else. That all being said, I hope when he's nominated we can all come together and make sure we don't get 4 more years of Bush policies on the economy and Iraq. |
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anonymous_coward
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| John Chambersburg wrote: | | Obama wasn't even part of the Senate at the time he says he was not for the war. so the word vote or him being against the war shouldn't even be associated with Obama. mute point. |
he publicly spoke out against it, at a time when it was very unpopular to do so (remember Freedom Fries?). Hillary and a lot of Dems took the easy way out and allowed us to get mired in a war in Iraq. |
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