The Public Opinion Soapbox

.45chel · Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 2723 Location: Chambersburg

While perusing other websites (yes, I actually do visit other sites) I came across this
http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=1059#comments

First impression was, "oh, he so snatched that concept!" A feeling that was reinforced when I read the comment about how he changed (or 'corrected') the name when his piece was challenged.

But I'm no talent --- and ya'll are.

I recognize that we are never completely unique beings, IMO. We go through life picking up bits of each other, brushing up against, experiencing transference, like a bit of bubblegum on someone's shoe...or , as Coppy mentioned in a previous thread, like Meatwad going about his business.
There is influence everywhere.

But when I saw American Influence for the first time, the feeling was so strong

and Rudd's piece just ticked me off. But I wasn't even ticked off enough to get angry. It was the discussion of the people on the above posted link that actually moved me to make this topic.

All cards on the table, I don't like Rudd's stuff. I think he tries too hard and I think there are far more talented people, BUT that's what art IS.
Opinions and emotions. I get that.
I realize I could be incredibly wrong. Rant over.
Back to purpose of post

Is ripping off ever okay?

what about being inspired by someone else?

And where is the line between ripping and inspiration?

What if you can do it better?
Is it okay then?

Your turn.
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anonymous_coward · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 486

I like it, i think using the same background color makes it obvious that it is homage, not copying. I wish he would have put Ronald in a different pose from the other piece however, that might have quelled a little of the controversy even.

A Talking Horse · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Cove Gap

In art - the line is a bit finer...

I think he made the mistake of basing his piece off the same image of Ronald Mc Donald...

If he used a different Ronald, the comparison would be more stylistic...and not so direct.
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cookieclaygirl · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1777 Location: shippensburg

bansky's statement, to me, seemed to be stronger (in a political sense) and his technique and proportions are better. his use of color is stronger and it gives a better sense of form where as judd's value range isn't as varied.

his work reminds of the kid in high school that was always creating a political piece of art to shock someone, when it was trite and uninteresting. catches the eye at first, then you forget about it.

homages and rip offs. andy warhol walked this line, of course, with the bastarization of commerical art vs the art world. and the whole ready-made scene as well. in that sense, it was art because it was 'new and fresh'...whereas this 'homage' is imo, just trying to cause a ruckus for pr. which, i'll admit teeters on the warholian aspect of art and society.

and, yes, it is a fine line between homage and rip offs. our 'great masters'...the ones we learn from, look to ... we pay homage to them. i think, for me, the term 'homage' towards another artist and his/her work of art would be that of....a sort of...a sense of sacredness....that the person's work is held in revere with, looked up to and admired...to learn from them and their techniques to grow and explore your own personal work (hence the great masters...even the school of classicism...or neo-classicism ... rome looking back and paying homage to greek art/culture from respect and admiration)

respect and admiration...learning from and praising the work done by others...to me this is an 'homage' for the art sense (bear w/me and my lifetime of studying it..lol)...

judd's work seems to do neither for me and i'm guessing he's using it for sensationalism, much as jeff koons would w/his sculptures. he tried, he got his spotlight for a glimmer of time, but more than likely it will be forgotten. unless he thinks himself clever and will hit repeat. probably will. just like the kid in highschool creating for sensationalism.

sorry.

i'm off the soapbox now. i can literally talk HOURS on art.

it's what i do for a living. hehe...

cookieclaygirl · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1777 Location: shippensburg