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walrus1



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Paterno Reply with quote

great football coach or an all-time great coach who has stayed way too long? A one time great who has become an embarrassment? A man who loves kids or an egomaniac who is sticking around for the all time win record? A coach who puts the team and kids ahead of everything or someone who has hurt the team through neopotism and antiquated game plans?

what say you?
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lwstepler



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knows what goes on inside the mind of another, but... My best guess is that JoePa has outlived his ability to be flexible, change with the times, etc. Some say he is a figure head and that others are calling the shots. I think that would be better for him and the team, but I think his hand is still in it too directly. Some paint him as an egomaniac, but I think it is a case of being a driven individual in a field (no pun intended) that is all he has ever known. If he retires, what will he do, wait around to die? I don't think that is in his plans.

Also, "prevent defense" has frustrated me not only with PSU, but wherever I see it. If you would count the "close calls (near losses) that never should have been" as losses, his win/loss record would not be nearly as impressive. I think he would say that "a win is a win" and play the anti-blowout "character" card, and he may be right - but it sure has been nerve racking!
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kajakama



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: paterno Reply with quote

As former resident of PA and avid fan of Penn State, I am continually frustrated when we get beat by a team with coaches who seem up with the times. Most schools allow players to play with lower GPA's than Paterno allows, and I sometimes think other teams recruit from prisons. When Paterno finally calls it quits, I hope the next coach replaces the entire staff and gets some new blood in Happy Valley. I also hope he recruits from across the USA.
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lwstepler



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we have to recruit prisoners or poor students. That is not the secret to finding the great players. Although eggheads like Bradshaw and Testeverde could be used to argue otherwise.
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anonymous_coward



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: paterno Reply with quote

kajakama wrote:
As former resident of PA and avid fan of Penn State, I am continually frustrated when we get beat by a team with coaches who seem up with the times. Most schools allow players to play with lower GPA's than Paterno allows, and I sometimes think other teams recruit from prisons. When Paterno finally calls it quits, I hope the next coach replaces the entire staff and gets some new blood in Happy Valley. I also hope he recruits from across the USA.


we do recruit accross the usa, and with the exception of last year have had some excellent recruiting classes lately. I also agree that we should not deemphasize academics.
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lwstepler



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Also, "prevent defense" has frustrated me not only with PSU, but wherever I see it. If you would count the "close calls (near losses) that never should have been" as losses, his win/loss record would not be nearly as impressive. I think he would say that "a win is a win" and play the anti-blowout "character" card, and he may be right - but it sure has been nerve racking!-

My quote from Oct 26 - and we did it once again vs. Purdue. Smart coaching would not have given Purdue a chance to tie on the last play of the game. I would say congratulations to Purdue had they earned that chance, but we basically gave it to them! Count this as another "too close for comfort" win!
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theboroboogiepickers



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO STATE!
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Trey



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lwstepler wrote:
I don't think we have to recruit prisoners or poor students. That is not the secret to finding the great players. Although eggheads like Bradshaw and Testeverde could be used to argue otherwise.


Testeverde shouldn't even be in the same sentence as Bradshaw. Like him or not Bradshaw knew how to win.

I don't mind an "egghead" quarterback if he can lead his team to 4 Super Bowl victories in a 6 year span. No other QB has ever done that.
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