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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Is it me? Reply with quote

is it just me or is there a problem with articles related to migrant workers, hispanics etc have the Topix comment option disabled?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, I suppose protesters know where to go now, even if they can't post.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, I think that's probably a good idea. When it comes to immigration, everyone seems to have something to say and no one takes a second to listen.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems as though that also applies to politics, high school band trips, billboards, the LTCF issue and, to a slightly lesser extent, clubs that have fishbowl gambling and cheap beer.



Can't say Franklin is a one issue town. er, county Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it me? Reply with quote

me wrote:
is it just me or is there a problem with articles related to migrant workers, hispanics etc have the Topix comment option disabled?


Were the comments disabled from the get-go or did they have to shut them down?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget $4 million pools, parking issues and Franklin County Commissioners...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it me? Reply with quote

AnonyMouse wrote:
me wrote:
is it just me or is there a problem with articles related to migrant workers, hispanics etc have the Topix comment option disabled?


Were the comments disabled from the get-go or did they have to shut them down?



they shut them down, i saw a comment in the one about the parenting classes in spanish that said "if we quit catering to the Mex's, the scum would go back to where they came from."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it me? Reply with quote

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AnonyMouse wrote:
me wrote:
is it just me or is there a problem with articles related to migrant workers, hispanics etc have the Topix comment option disabled?


Were the comments disabled from the get-go or did they have to shut them down?



they shut them down, i saw a comment in the one about the parenting classes in spanish that said "if we quit catering to the Mex's, the scum would go back to where they came from."


Yes, that is always a catalyst for intelligent discussion Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked OMG that's nast-ee!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, I try to remain optimistic. I started that other thread based on an inspirational thing I read, but it degenerated into the same moronic thing. You guys (Coppy, Chel, Coward, Torgo) are a breath of fresh air. You are all thoughtful, informed, good-natured folks who are able to disagree civilly. Thanks for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I speak for all of us when I say that the feeling is mutual Anonymouse
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Coppy!!! You can't speak for me!!!!



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnonyMouse wrote:
You know, I try to remain optimistic. I started that other thread based on an inspirational thing I read, but it degenerated into the same moronic thing. You guys (Coppy, Chel, Coward, Torgo) are a breath of fresh air. You are all thoughtful, informed, good-natured folks who are able to disagree civilly. Thanks for that.



i don't know what to do sometimes when i see posts full of ignorance, or worse yet hate. i feel continuously sucked down into this arguing that gets everyone nowhere, and makes me so angry and full of despair.

this is a question much broader than just the PO or even just franklin county, but how do we move debate past anger at differing views? is it just the anonymity of the internet? has this spilled out of the internet to all dialog? how do we remind ourselves and the people who we disagree with that we all want the same things, and in person have helped or been helped by each other? i feel very very pessimistic right now, but still hold out some hope for the power of Obama to unite.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anonymous_coward wrote:
AnonyMouse wrote:
You know, I try to remain optimistic. I started that other thread based on an inspirational thing I read, but it degenerated into the same moronic thing. You guys (Coppy, Chel, Coward, Torgo) are a breath of fresh air. You are all thoughtful, informed, good-natured folks who are able to disagree civilly. Thanks for that.



i don't know what to do sometimes when i see posts full of ignorance, or worse yet hate. i feel continuously sucked down into this arguing that gets everyone nowhere, and makes me so angry and full of despair.

this is a question much broader than just the PO or even just franklin county, but how do we move debate past anger at differing views? is it just the anonymity of the internet? has this spilled out of the internet to all dialog? how do we remind ourselves and the people who we disagree with that we all want the same things, and in person have helped or been helped by each other? i feel very very pessimistic right now, but still hold out some hope for the power of Obama to unite.


For me, conversation never degenerates into the stupidity of internet debate when I'm talking to someone in person. Admittedly, because I value the relationships I have with my friends, I don't bring up certain issues with certain people because I know it won't go anywhere productive. I did have a good conversation with two friends a couple of weeks ago about the Obama/Muslim/black issue (we started at opposite ends) where we arrived at a satisfying place without totally agreeing.

Some of the problem I think lies in the personality of some people. Some people (our president springs to mind) are unable to admit a single mistake because they believe that acknowledging they were wrong on one issue is like admitting they are wrong. These are people with adolescent-like personalities who can't differentiate between "I was wrong on this issue" from "I always have bad judgment."

I also think that discussions by writing (email, forums, etc.) are inherently weak. There is too much room to misinterpret tone and make false assumptions. That's the value of the emoticons - we soften things that might be interpreted too harshly. Maybe emotionally charged issues like race and immigration simply can't be worked out in this medium.

I always appreciate your input A.C. You are sincere, thoughtful and balanced. You've made some excellent points with Muchkin, but he just can't hear them.
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