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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Torgo wrote: | | munchkin wrote: | | Dems did it first in MI |
Haha, you debate like a 12-year-old. "They did it first." LOL
| munchkin wrote: | | Were you so upset when they crossed over? Judging form your post it would seem not |
You judge poorly. As usual.
| munchkin wrote: | | Or could it be Operation Chaos is getting resuls while the Daily Kooks efforts did not? |
Results? Where? I'm sorry, was a primary held in Pa. and I missed it?
Oh, and while we're at it, why not respond to this, Dodo?
| torgo wrote: | | Fact: Every drooling Rush follower who crosses over to cast a meaningless vote against Obama in the Pa. primary is giving (up) a potentially very meaningful vote in the state Senate GOP primary (which will decide the contest, since there is no Democrat on the ballot for Punt's seat) State offices have far more impact on voters' daily existence." |
Not only are you traitorous fools, you apparently care nothing for your local community. |
The liberal mindset at work. Dems can cross over and choose the Republican nominee but Republicans can;t do the same
You will not want to see the PA primary. Hillary is set to win it by a huge margin, and cut into Obama's popular vote lead
Yes, ignore the proof from the Daily Kook Kos, and continue to wonder down the path to Looney Liberalville
Hundreds of thousands of Republicans crossed over in TX and OH, and gave Hillary huge wins. The same will happen in PA
Meanwhile sit back and enjoy the war between Hillary and Obama. It will only get worse and then the main event in Denver
Operation Chaos is working better then anyone expected |
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Torgo

Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 522 Location: Manos: The Hands of Fate
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| munchkin wrote: | | Hundreds of thousands of Republicans crossed over in TX and OH, and gave Hillary huge wins. |
Outright lie? Stunning ignorance? Desperate blindness?
Anyone paying attention knows Texas was a draw. The same will happen in Pennsylvania. At worst, it will mimic Ohio, in which Hillary "won" handily but gained relatively few delegates.
And as usual, you ignore the points you can't handle.
You are a traitorous, dishonest fraud, and no longer worth my time. _________________ "The Master would not approve..." |
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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Torgo wrote: | | munchkin wrote: | | Hundreds of thousands of Republicans crossed over in TX and OH, and gave Hillary huge wins. |
Outright lie? Stunning ignorance? Desperate blindness?
Anyone paying attention knows Texas was a draw. The same will happen in Pennsylvania. At worst, it will mimic Ohio, in which Hillary "won" handily but gained relatively few delegates.
And as usual, you ignore the points you can't handle.
You are a traitorous, dishonest fraud, and no longer worth my time. |
Texas was a draw? LOL!!!
Here are the numbers - read them and weep
Republicans Helped Hillary Win Texas
Wednesday, March 5, 2008 3:55 PM
Republican crossover voters apparently helped win the Democratic primary in Texas for Hillary Clinton — with one in every 10 Democratic votes came from Republicans.
And they could have been heeding the call of top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh, who had been urging Republican listeners to vote for Hillary to prevent the Democrats from unifying around Obama and to keep the two candidates battling each other.
“Hillary Clinton is back in the race, thanks in some small part to Republican voters mindlessly following the commands of radio entertainers and crossing party lines to vote for the candidate they view as weakest,” Bud Kennedy writes in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram Wednesday.
According to exit polls, of the 10 percent of Democratic votes that came from Republicans, about 53 percent of the crossovers chose Obama and 46 percent went with Clinton, the Dallas Morning News reports.
But previously these crossovers had voted overwhelmingly in favor of Obama. And the exit polls also show that Hillary won handily among conservative voters, including many Democrats, 53 percent to 43 percent over Obama, reports the Web site Outside the Beltway — which also noted that “Clinton truly might have won the Texas primary on the backs of Rush Limbaugh listeners.”
Clinton’s overall margin of victory was just 3 percent — about 98,000 votes out of 2.8 million cast.
“Thousands of traditionally Republican voters helped swell the ranks of the Democrats,” the Morning News observed.
“Some crossed over out of support for Mr. Obama, others were simply dissatisfied with their own party’s choice. Still others supported Mrs. Clinton hoping that by helping extend the Democratic feud, they would leave their own party in a better spot this fall.”
Limbaugh claimed at least some of the credit for Hillary’s victory, saying on Wednesday: “What we did, if we did anything, is to create a bunch of chaos in the Democratic Party — and it worked.”
and here are the numbers from Ohio
It started a few weeks ago when conservative radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh suggested that his Republican following cross over during the primary to vote for Clinton. Clinton, Limbaugh argued, would be easier for McCain to beat in November......
A staggering 16,000-plus Republicans in Cuyahoga County switched parties when they voted in last week's primary.
At least one member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections wants to investigate some Republicans who may have crossed party lines only to influence which Democrat would face John McCain.
Anyone who crossed lines was supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party. In Cuyahoga County, dozens and dozens of Republicans scribbled addendums onto their pledges as new Democrats.
"For one day only."
"I don't believe in abortion."
A Plain Dealer review of thousands of records showed few of those who switched were challenged by poll workers.
Ohio voters are allowed to switch party affiliations on the day of a primary election but only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it.
and the libs shed those oceans of tears over it |
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cookieclaygirl

Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 2136 Location: shippensburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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politics like that make me sick and sad that that's the state of affairs our country is in. ppl like that should be ashamed.
and you still bore me. /yawn. |
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munchkin
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 235
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | politics like that make me sick and sad that that's the state of affairs our country is in. ppl like that should be ashamed.
and you still bore me. /yawn. |
People like you thump yopur chest, whine how rotten things are - then have a fit when your own tactics are used against you
Facts do bore liberals - it is because the facts usually go against them
Acting like a snob will not change thise facts. You will just have to live with them |
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cookieclaygirl

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| no, i didn't say facts bored me..i said YOU bored me....lol... |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | | no, i didn't say facts bored me..i said YOU bored me....lol... |
Same thing my dear
Ask AM, she claims to want to have a discussion with conservatives, but I have the very nasty habit of injecting facts into the debate
Then she scampers away to safety |
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cookieclaygirl

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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The maturity of liberal is something to behold. Taking lessons from AM on how to beat back facts I see
That is the differecne between conservatoves and liberals
Conservatives grew out of adolescence |
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cookieclaygirl

Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 2136 Location: shippensburg
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. |
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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| cookieclaygirl wrote: | troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. |
Good self description of yourself
If my arguments were so weak you would debate them. Your own words betray the fact I am accurate in what I post, and your only recourse is to go into attack mode
Like the other libs here, it is the only thing you have in your debate playbook |
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cookieclaygirl

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munchkin
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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You are also a liberal who has a severe phobia to the facts
A common trait |
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Torgo

Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 522 Location: Manos: The Hands of Fate
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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"I know you are but what am I?"
What a crushing retort! Pee-Wee Playhouse is that way... ----->
PS - Still waiting for you to address your disregard for the 33rd District state Senate race, Dodo... _________________ "The Master would not approve..." |
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Torgo

Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 522 Location: Manos: The Hands of Fate
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Psst! Cookie! He called you "dear!"
*comfort _________________ "The Master would not approve..." |
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